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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a tip: dont use dictionary passwords!



Im sure people are sensible enough not to but just in case this article should scare you into sorting it out...



An exploit is doing the rounds... "Software designed to exploit the much lauded Gmail service has just been released this week. Aptly named "Gmail Hack" the software performs Dictionary and Brute Force Attacks against a GMail email account."



fullstory:

http://www.bonar.co.uk/bonarmedia/html/print.php?sid=13</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a tip: dont use dictionary passwords!</p>
<p>Im sure people are sensible enough not to but just in case this article should scare you into sorting it out&#8230;</p>
<p>An exploit is doing the rounds&#8230; &#8220;Software designed to exploit the much lauded Gmail service has just been released this week. Aptly named &#8220;Gmail Hack&#8221; the software performs Dictionary and Brute Force Attacks against a GMail email account.&#8221;</p>
<p>fullstory:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bonar.co.uk/bonarmedia/html/print.php?sid=13" rel="nofollow">http://www.bonar.co.uk/bonarmedia/html/print.php?sid=13</a></p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i heard that google and yahoo offers , large memory for mail services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i heard that google and yahoo offers , large memory for mail services.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure thing</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2004 06:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's really good that Google has started to create adiitional features like Gmail. I've always liked it as a search engine but it wasn't as good as Yahoo or MSN in terms of other services. I believe that now Google will become even more popular, there might be a lot of people who like the Gmail. If I didn't have my &lt;a href="http://alierra.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;domain name&lt;/a&gt; account, I would sign for Gmail as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s really good that Google has started to create adiitional features like Gmail. I&#8217;ve always liked it as a search engine but it wasn&#8217;t as good as Yahoo or MSN in terms of other services. I believe that now Google will become even more popular, there might be a lot of people who like the Gmail. If I didn&#8217;t have my <a href="http://alierra.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/alierra.com');">domain name</a> account, I would sign for Gmail as well.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron wall</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2004 02:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when has general purpose free email became this grand fortress of security? Hotmail and Yahoo! mail get scanned anyway.



It is fashionable to bash Google. Many people who do not like their policies are &lt;b&gt;looking for press&lt;/b&gt; or have &lt;b&gt;financial interest&lt;/b&gt; in competitors.

&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Some have stated that &lt;a href="http://www.google-watch.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Google is evil&lt;/a&gt; do to their own &lt;a href="http://www.google-watch-watch.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;lack of hard work&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;li&gt;Oddly enough Daniel Brandt (of Google Watch) is operating under the cloak of "public interest" and is worried about Google's "privacy policy."

&lt;li&gt;I would bet that not all of those privacy advocacy groups are pure. They get their funding from somewhere.

&lt;li&gt;People come up with stupid &lt;a href="http://www.internet-marketing-research.net/forums/ftopic7275.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;random conspiracy theories&lt;/a&gt; about Google every day.

&lt;li&gt;Many people are &lt;a href="http://www.depressionblog.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;suffering from depression&lt;/a&gt; or anxiety but GMAIL is no &lt;b&gt;legitimate&lt;/b&gt; reason to be concerned.

&lt;li&gt;It's my choice if I want to be tracked by Google, unlike what the government wishes to do.

&lt;li&gt;Currently I trust Google way more than I trust our government.

&lt;li&gt;All the tracking Google does is worthless if I stop using their services.

&lt;li&gt;If in the future Google misuses data then they lose market share and hopefully go bankrupt.

&lt;li&gt;They did not create the great value they have in such a short period of time by being greedy and short sided.&lt;ul&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when has general purpose free email became this grand fortress of security? Hotmail and Yahoo! mail get scanned anyway.</p>
<p>It is fashionable to bash Google. Many people who do not like their policies are <b>looking for press</b> or have <b>financial interest</b> in competitors.</p>
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<li>Some have stated that <a href="http://www.google-watch.org/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.google-watch.org');">Google is evil</a> do to their own <a href="http://www.google-watch-watch.org/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.google-watch-watch.org');">lack of hard work</a>.</p>
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<li>Oddly enough Daniel Brandt (of Google Watch) is operating under the cloak of &#8220;public interest&#8221; and is worried about Google&#8217;s &#8220;privacy policy.&#8221;
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<li>I would bet that not all of those privacy advocacy groups are pure. They get their funding from somewhere.
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<li>People come up with stupid <a href="http://www.internet-marketing-research.net/forums/ftopic7275.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.internet-marketing-research.net');">random conspiracy theories</a> about Google every day.
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<li>Many people are <a href="http://www.depressionblog.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.depressionblog.com');">suffering from depression</a> or anxiety but GMAIL is no <b>legitimate</b> reason to be concerned.
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<li>It&#8217;s my choice if I want to be tracked by Google, unlike what the government wishes to do.
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<li>Currently I trust Google way more than I trust our government.
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<li>All the tracking Google does is worthless if I stop using their services.
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<li>If in the future Google misuses data then they lose market share and hopefully go bankrupt.
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<li>They did not create the great value they have in such a short period of time by being greedy and short sided.
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2004 03:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I am a owner of a blogspot blog I own my Gmail for 3 weeks now and I must say It kicks ass!!! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I am a owner of a blogspot blog I own my Gmail for 3 weeks now and I must say It kicks ass!!! <img src='http://www.bruner.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Taco John</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Taco John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 12:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, scary residual copies of e-mails.  I think we should call them exactly what they are so the public knows what Google is doing: backups.  That's all they are.  Here's what I think the problem is: Google has told everyone they are going to do what Yahoo! and MSN probably already do, without expressly telling you.  I haven't read Hotmail or Yahoo! Mail's privacy policy, but I bet you agree to have your e-mail scanned for spam, viruses and "other purposes".  I bet backups are mentioned too.  If anything is a complaint against Google's privacy policy, it should be that they should lobby for better protection of e-mail older than 180 days and should not be pushing the "store everything" angle as hard as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, scary residual copies of e-mails.  I think we should call them exactly what they are so the public knows what Google is doing: backups.  That&#8217;s all they are.  Here&#8217;s what I think the problem is: Google has told everyone they are going to do what Yahoo! and MSN probably already do, without expressly telling you.  I haven&#8217;t read Hotmail or Yahoo! Mail&#8217;s privacy policy, but I bet you agree to have your e-mail scanned for spam, viruses and &#8220;other purposes&#8221;.  I bet backups are mentioned too.  If anything is a complaint against Google&#8217;s privacy policy, it should be that they should lobby for better protection of e-mail older than 180 days and should not be pushing the &#8220;store everything&#8221; angle as hard as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Raheem</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Raheem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2004 13:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me googles privacy policy is acceptable. I dont mind some machine reading my mails as long as they dont disclose it to third party. I especially liked the threading of mails as conversations and the simple interface of Gmail.



However, I would be happy to get some features like notification (like Yahoo messenger), signature at the bottom and text mail (which they are going to introduce soon).



I am gradually shifting from my old web-based email to Gmail and asking my friends to 'gMail' me instead of saying eMail me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me googles privacy policy is acceptable. I dont mind some machine reading my mails as long as they dont disclose it to third party. I especially liked the threading of mails as conversations and the simple interface of Gmail.</p>
<p>However, I would be happy to get some features like notification (like Yahoo messenger), signature at the bottom and text mail (which they are going to introduce soon).</p>
<p>I am gradually shifting from my old web-based email to Gmail and asking my friends to &#8216;gMail&#8217; me instead of saying eMail me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bruner</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Bruner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should just leave well enough alone on this topic, but then I came across this comment on Esther Dyson's blog, she being a former EFF bigwig herself. I think &lt;a href="http://weblog.edventure.com/blog/_archives/2004/4/8/33233.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;she nails a key point&lt;/a&gt; a lot of the Gmail bashers are ignoring:&lt;blockquote&gt;First off, yes, the privacy concerns are real: If you have anything really secret, you probably  shouldn't write about it in Gmail... or any other public, unencrypted e-mail service. On the other hand, you *certainly* shouldn't write anything secret on your well-protected corporate service. &lt;/blockquote&gt;That is, no email is secure, if you're really concerned about the Feds getting ahold of your secret thoughts. Emails leave snatchets of themselves on relay servers all across the web. Besides, the Feds already &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; reading your email. Have we forgotten about &lt;a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5172948.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Carnivore&lt;/a&gt;, which well pre-dates Sept. 11, 2001?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should just leave well enough alone on this topic, but then I came across this comment on Esther Dyson&#8217;s blog, she being a former EFF bigwig herself. I think <a href="http://weblog.edventure.com/blog/_archives/2004/4/8/33233.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/weblog.edventure.com');">she nails a key point</a> a lot of the Gmail bashers are ignoring:<br />
<blockquote>First off, yes, the privacy concerns are real: If you have anything really secret, you probably  shouldn&#8217;t write about it in Gmail&#8230; or any other public, unencrypted e-mail service. On the other hand, you *certainly* shouldn&#8217;t write anything secret on your well-protected corporate service. </p></blockquote>
<p>That is, no email is secure, if you&#8217;re really concerned about the Feds getting ahold of your secret thoughts. Emails leave snatchets of themselves on relay servers all across the web. Besides, the Feds already <i>are</i> reading your email. Have we forgotten about <a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5172948.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/news.com.com');">Carnivore</a>, which well pre-dates Sept. 11, 2001?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bruner.net/2004/04/09/gmail-me/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here the latest on what the EFF thinks about Gmail, and includes some interesting links at the bottom to others' concerns:



&lt;a href="http://blogs.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001375.php#001375" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://blogs.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001375.php#001375&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here the latest on what the EFF thinks about Gmail, and includes some interesting links at the bottom to others&#8217; concerns:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001375.php#001375" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/blogs.eff.org');">http://blogs.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001375.php#001375</a></p>
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